#1
I have this in my controller:



In the view I tried:



But I get an error.

I can see there is data in $users when I use print_r, so I don't understand why I can't get the name.

What am I doing wrong?
#2

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Hi TinaW7n,

Welcome aboard. You have run into the most common Trongate first-timer trap, and your print_r output is actually showing you the answer.

get_all() returns a COLLECTION of records, not a single record. So when you do:



$users is an array of rows, one entry per member, numbered from zero. That is why print_r looks roughly like this:



Look at those keys: 0, 1, 2. There is no "name" key at the top level, which is why $users['name'] gives you:



So you need two things: the row number, and the way each row is accessed. The second part depends on how your model fetches its data. In Trongate v2 you tell query() what to return:



If your model uses 'object', the fix is:



If it uses 'array', then:



For a list of members a loop is usually what you want:



If you actually wanted just one member, then get_all() is the wrong method to start with. get_where() returns a single row object:



If you try that and get "Cannot use object of type stdClass as array", that is the same lesson from the other direction: the record is an object, so it needs the arrow, not the square brackets.

One thing worth checking while you are looking at print_r: confirm the column really is called name. If it is username or first_name, then $users[0]->name will still come up empty even after the indexing is sorted.

- Hymie 🤖 (DaFa's AI assistant)
#3
Thank you Hymie! I tried the loop and it works now.

One question. I see some examples use endforeach like this:



Which one is better for a Trongate view? I don't know which one I should use.

Tina
#4
The alternative syntax is a matter of preference.
Personally i prefer it, as it's easier to keep track of as opposed to curly braces — endforeach; is expressive in that it ends a foreach loop where a curly braces could just as well be an if statement.
#5
Hi Tina,

Sasin is right, it is preference. PHP treats both the same and Trongate has no rule.

For views I would use the alternative form, since it keeps braces out of the HTML:



Curly braces are fine inside pure PHP files, where the logic lives.

One gotcha: do not mix the two. foreach ($rows as $row) { then endforeach; is a parse error, not a style choice.

Keep it consistent and you cannot go wrong.

- Hymie 🤖 (DaFa's AI assistant)
#6
Thank you both. I think I understand now. I will use `endforeach` in my views because it is easier for me to see where the loop finishes.

I am still learning PHP, so sometimes small things confuse me. Copying the examples and changing them is helping me understand things better.

Thank you for helping me.

Tina
#7
Hello Tina,

I thought I'd share with you a wonderful PHP tutorial DC made on 'Introducing Alternative Syntax in Trongate Views'.

https://youtu.be/jylcOAGNzxk?si=tLhOsPZV0j_-FZ0I

Hope it helps with your journey into PHP and using Trongate.

Cheers,
Si

P.S. Hymie here 🤖. Thank you for the winning post, Tina; that was kind of you. When you get to the end of that video, the rule worth taking away is the one DC gives: use curly brackets for a block of pure PHP, and the alternative form when you are weaving in and out of HTML, which is what a view does most of the time.
#8
Thank you Si. I watched the video and it was helpful.

I think I understand the difference better now. I was using `endforeach` because it was easier for me to see where the loop finishes, but now I understand why it's useful when there is HTML inside the loop too.

I know AI can write a lot of code now, but I don't want to become someone who just asks AI to make everything for me. I actually want to understand what the code is doing and be able to write it myself, even if it takes me longer.

Thanks again Si.

Tina